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No More Fantastic Four Sequels?

by Jeff Giles | March 24, 2008

Summary

When the first two installments of a film franchise rack up nearly $300 million in domestic box office receipts, you'd tend to think a third chapter in the series would be inevitable. Back to Article

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TombstoneLawDog writes:
on Mar 24 2008 05:47 AM

Much as he's obviously doing the 'pretty boy' circuit in movies like this, Evans also seems to be taking efforts to make himself into a serious actor; see, for example, "Sunshine"-- great, more complicated role in what started off as a great movie. Candor like this makes me respect him that much more. I can only enjoy being a cynical prick and speculate why FF was NOT a 'legitimate cast.' Rhymes with 'Jessica Alba'..

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Elixor writes:
on Mar 24 2008 05:58 AM

Good. These were bad movies and shouldn't have been made in the first place. Both managed to misrepresent two great characters in Dr. Doom and Galactus. Not to mention that they were horribly written and acted.

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Vortex&Vertigo writes:
on Mar 24 2008 06:27 AM

See. there are no coincidances. This is why he was the only thing worth seeing in the fantastic four series.

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dylan21484nj writes:
on Mar 24 2008 06:30 AM

thank god it's over. and i agree that Alba was the weakest link in the cast. so many people go on and how about how hot she is. yeah, we get it, she's smoking hot. but she's a terrible actor. i thought someone like Naomi Watts was better suited for the Sue Storm role, but the casting of Alba was proof that they were aiming for eye candy rather than acting chops.

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iakobos writes:
on Mar 24 2008 06:48 AM

Don't lay all the blame at the feet of Alba. Ioan Gruffudd simply didn't pull off the part of Reed Richards at all. I don't know if it was his failure as an actor, the writing or the directing or all the above but he never came close to portraying Richards as he is depicted in the commics. In the comics Richards was a tougher, more authoritative leader. It was obvious he was in charge. In the movie, Richards was none of that.

It's a real shame the movies weren't any better. Wish I could say I'm going to miss a third installment.

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The Tony Show writes:
on Mar 24 2008 06:55 AM

Just wait 10 years and they'll hire a dark, mysterious Director to "reboot" it.

lol

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dahluzz writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:10 AM

hosanna in the highest, the series is dead. i watched about an hour of the first one on hbo and that was plenty.

i mean, everyone knew sue storm was always way out of reed's league, but he wooed her through his ballerism, and Ioan Gruffudd (hate that name, how do you even say it?) displayed no such game. plus, alba was her usual stilted, unassured self.

however, i don't think ole chris evans should be pining for legitimacy. as impressive as "celular" and "the nanny diaries" were, chris, I don't know if you're quite on the A-list yourself.

anyways, please let this franchise die, and if they insist on crossing one of the characters over, make it dr. doom. guy is pure evil and wasn't given his due at all.

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TombstoneLawDog writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:25 AM

Yeah, ..I'll give you guys that Gruffud was pretty bad, too. All the machismo of McLovin and half the charisma.

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crystalwhiteeyes writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:35 AM

Fantastic!!

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largely writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:39 AM

Yaayyyyyyyyy! Now if JLA would just follow suit. Hey did anybody else not like Lawrence Fishburn's voice for SS. I remember seeing an early trailer that had Doug Jones's voice over and it sounded so much more like what I thought the Surfer should sound like. Now he just sounds like Morpheus.

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Thundaar writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:49 AM

This series failed mostly because of the writing and the direction. The cast wasn't strong - except Evans IMO. Conceptually, they went for camp. Bad idea.

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DrNvrmore writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:56 AM

You guys take this ***** to seriously.

The first movie was not well done at all but the 2nd movie was much better - while not acted that much better the movie was no worse than any of the 3 X-Men movies. Weakest link was Julian McMahon as Dr. Doom, he played the exact same cheese character as he did in the Charmed Ones and just like Alyssa Milano, Jessica Alba makes up for "lack of acting ability" in the "nice to look at" category.

I am sure we will see the return of the FF to movies - as Marvel doesn't seem to care about making cornpuffs (ei: Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider) - I think Marvel is just looking at completing their big "super-hero introduction" movies (ie: Iron Man, Incredible Hulk and then future movies like Antman, Capt. America, Thor) that will lead to the Avengers Movie.

Not that anyone cares... but my 5 year old son thinks that the 2 FF movies are the best thing this side of anything created by Pixar.

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Kollikodon writes:
on Mar 24 2008 08:03 AM

I was kinda hoping they'd drag the 'useless adventure that couldnt' until a 4th installment..

Fantastic 4: Quatro, anyone?

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darth_chef writes:
on Mar 24 2008 08:07 AM

Hopefully the Silver Surfer will get his standalone film now

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arendr writes:
on Mar 24 2008 08:32 AM

Thank God. Those movies are abominations.

And not just because Alba can't act.

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JUDGE DREDD writes:
on Mar 24 2008 10:02 AM

I must be in the minority that actually didnt mind the films too much. I coulda handled a 3rd just to round it off. I think spiderman 3 was worse. But i never asked much from FF, wasnt a big fan of the comics. And i agree Alba was the weakest link, and i dont particularly think shes that hot. I know waaaay hotter girls in real life than alba. Give me Kelly Brook anyday. (Alba would still cop it sweet though!)

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DrNvrmore writes:
on Mar 24 2008 10:23 AM

In reply to this comment (#1650708)
Didn't realize Bat-Fink knew Kelly Brook.

I will say that Alba might not fit everyone's taste but I don't see how people could ever say she is "not THAT hot" after they watch her in "INTO THE BLUE".

And if BatFink does know hotter gals that Alba what is he doing wasting time on this message board... LOL!

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5minutesmusic writes:
on Mar 24 2008 10:32 AM

The first one was terrible, but Rise of the Silver Surfer was so much better. I enjoyed it. Would I like to have some one else replace Jessica Alba? Yes, I think she was just terrible in FF movies. Chris Evans I thought was convincing enough. If they are going to do another one in the next couple years I hope they get someone to replace Alba!

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The Tony Show writes:
on Mar 24 2008 11:05 AM

Chris Evans had me at "Teen Movie" ("There's a hole in the side of your house"). The guy has good comic timing, yet still pulls off the serious stuff well. He's no Oscar winner yet, but he's enjoyable to watch.

The rest of the FF cast is not so fortunate.

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rgallitan writes:
on Mar 24 2008 11:25 AM

Didn't see the second one, but I liked the first. It wasn't great, and Alba and Dr. Doom WERE pretty weak, but it was mostly harmless fun. I think people are too hard on it because they compare it to the more mature reboots we've been blessed with in recent years, and forget that the FF4 comics were never anything but fluff.

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dirtygerman03 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 11:31 AM

In reply to this comment (#1650498)
That really wouldn't surprise me if they tried to reboot it. Again. I mean you could technically call this series a reboot since the original one from 1994 was so terrible it was never released.

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thereign writes:
on Mar 24 2008 11:44 AM

Rgallitan;

Did you ever read the FF when John Byrne was writing it? While not exactly the greatest writer in the world(and his art has declined as he's gotten older, which is odd), his stories were hardly "anything but fluff"... especially the issues where they teamed up w/Dr. Strange to fight Mephisto, and Reed had his arm broken WHILE it was stretched(demonic forces, magic, those type of things).

As for the Silver Surfer movie: written by J. Michael Straczynski(creator of Babylon 5), but haven't heard anything about that progress recently.

FF(both) sucked, mainly because there was no real respect for the history of ANY of the characters, especially the villains. While Iaon(pronounced Yo-Ann) Gruffud blew as Reed Richards, McMahon sucked totally as Von Doom. And don't even get me started on the hideous misstep that was Story's interpretation of Galactus. And since when does the Surfer get WEAKER when he's separated from his board? Gimme a break!

I'm sure the FF movies aren't really done...although it would be absolutely the best news I've heard in a month if it were true. One can only hope.

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Hamboner writes:
on Mar 24 2008 11:48 AM

The tone of these movies isn't all that far off of the tone of the comics. The FF to me were always a cheesy bunch and the movie was doomed to match that. You can't make a dark, action-packed psychodrama out of FF unless you disregard the source material... which of course would defeat the purpose of even putting them in a movie.

My problem is that Dr. Doom and Galactus were awesome and terrifying villains, and the movies completely dropped the ball. I suppose it was hard to make the villains so great while making the heroes so utterly uncharasmatic.

Through all of this, I feel bad for Michael Chiklis. He gets a lot of credit in my book for putting work into an utterly stupid role where he really had no chance of succeeding or receiving wide credit.

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simpsons-movie-ruled writes:
on Mar 24 2008 12:09 PM

In reply to this comment (#1650495)
I heard(or probably read) somewhere that these movies were aimed to families. So that has to be the biggest screw-up they had, but I dont really know.
Anyways, WITHOUTH A FANTASTIC FOUR:3, THERE WONT BE A FANTASTIC FOUR:4!!!

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Timbo0075 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 12:22 PM

I'd check it out if there was a new one. I don't think the films are good but you know... It's a Marvel film the second one was entertaining, just not very clever ...

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collex writes:
on Mar 24 2008 12:33 PM

Well, I liked the first two movie. They are not great, but they are light-hearted, funny little movie. I've seen waaaay better superhero movies, but I've seenworst superhero movies too (hulk, electra).

I won't be sad if there is no FF4-3. A third one would maybe be too much. Especially if they do it more campy (batman and robin everyone?)

I never read much of FF4 comic book however, They were not my favorites at all.

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Jack Waters writes:
on Mar 24 2008 12:34 PM

Good. These movies suck.

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blinkuldhc writes:
on Mar 24 2008 12:44 PM

Doom was unjustly portrayed. He was not the least bit intimidating, but more like a vain pretty boy with new toys. I gotta say, Chris Evans did a pretty good job with HT, however.

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High School With Money writes:
on Mar 24 2008 12:44 PM

If the chance came up for a Defenders movie, I'd like to see Evans return. Plus it would satisfy my Captain America quota as well. Win-win!

I thought his performance in London was really good - too bad his character was an extreme bag of doucheness.

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Saint Leonidas writes:
on Mar 24 2008 12:52 PM

God I hope they dont make another. The Fantastic Four movies are horrible.

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Bob* writes:
on Mar 24 2008 12:54 PM

I enjoyed the 1st one but I always saw it as a very popcorn flick that could be improved in the 2d one...well they didn't :/ It actually got worse.

A 3d one...I don't think they could make it better. Or maybe they do. In any case, personally, I don't care.

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deep_toot writes:
on Mar 24 2008 01:03 PM

YEAH!!! its finally over. im sad to say ive seen both movies, they could have done so much better. instead i felt that the movies were to kid friendly. the fantastic four movies were just horrible, so im glad that they dont make any more... if they are gonna make another one, then they should make them more violent, like how they originally were in the comics.... not all this stupid kid friendly crap

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Zeppo1 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 01:09 PM

The saddest part is that "Fantastic Four" could have been a fun and possibly even great series of films. There were several problems, however. First was some of the casting. I totally agree that Jessica Alba was poorly cast. She is beautiful, but not a good actress, and here she was undoubtedly miscast. The characterizations also didn't work. None of them (except Evans possibly) seemed glad to be there. Only the Human Torch found much advantage to be a superhero. Evans was the only one to breath much life into the his part. Lastly, the plots and direction wanted to treat the franchise as a family-oriented superhero movie. The filmmakers should have taken it into a bit more serious territory. It was too light and disengaging.

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hewpot writes:
on Mar 24 2008 01:27 PM

this is great news!!

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hellraiserlvr writes:
on Mar 24 2008 01:32 PM

In reply to this comment (#1650541)
DrNvrmore, are you crazy? I saw both and the second one was way worse that the first one. Also, Alyssa Milano is probably one of the most underrated actresses of our time. Ok, her TV work is not that great, but have you ever seen "Fear", which was consequently Reese Witherspoon's and Mark Wahlburg's breakout movie. Milano was brilliant in it. She reminds me a lot of Rose McGowan - yeah, she can definitely cheese it up, but she can also be a fantastic actress.

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JHolmes17 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 01:33 PM

Oh, thank you God in Heaven!

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hellraiserlvr writes:
on Mar 24 2008 01:37 PM

In reply to this comment (#1650541)
DrNvrmore, are you crazy? I saw both and the second one was way worse that the first one. Also, Alyssa Milano is probably one of the most underrated actresses of our time. Ok, her TV work is not that great, but have you ever seen "Fear", which was consequently Reese Witherspoon's and Mark Wahlburg's breakout movie. Milano was brilliant in it. She reminds me a lot of Rose McGowan - yeah, she can definitely cheese it up, but she can also be a fantastic actress.

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LordVapor writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:00 PM

The only part of either movie that was cast properly was Human Torch, and Thing, thought both were done well...after that though, the rest sucked...like an earlier post said, Naomi Watts would have made a really really good Sue Storm I believe.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:01 PM

In reply to this comment (#1650776)
Ionn is a terrific actor in his element. See Amazing Grace or better yet the old Horatio Hornblower series. Also thought he outacted Clive Owen in King Arthur, but you're right he wasn't ideal for Reed Richards.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:09 PM

"Do you hear that Richards? Mark it well, for it is the sound of your DOOM!!!!!" Where were the awesome Doom double entendre's? Dr. Doom is still my favorite villain in comics, but they failed to capture him at all in this series. Where was the justified arrogance? Where was the ruthlessness that made other highly respected villains afraid of him? He was more like a bastardized absorbing-man/electro crossover in this. Sad. I think they could have made a decent movie out of the third one if they'd added in Franklin and ratcheted the tension with the children in danger the first family of comics must unite to save him route.

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Ruckas356 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:15 PM

Good fantastic four wasnt really good. But if they rate it R and get alba to show some boobage and get her arse tore up by the thing, then maybe....

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bookworm1994 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:15 PM

THANK YOU GOD!!!!!!!

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Hamboner writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:27 PM

But it made so much money... I just don't get it. I guess the couldn't resign the cast for cheap.

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scduregger writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:35 PM

thank god. these movies were horrible.

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rle4lunch writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:40 PM

thank gawd, eff this stupid franchise!

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lpbreeze writes:
on Mar 24 2008 02:59 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing another movie but wait 5-10 years.

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Warheart1188 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 03:30 PM

Albas hotness compensated for her acting.

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MaxFisher14 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 03:31 PM

Thank God..........

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lestatthevampire writes:
on Mar 24 2008 03:39 PM

Come on... Surfer looked cool.

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I Am Remote writes:
on Mar 24 2008 03:43 PM

while the thing and torch were handled great, the nucleus of the team: fantasic and invisible woman, were horribly miscast and performed. After Spider-Man and X-Men, Fantastic 4 is argueably the only other Marvel title worthy of a big screen treatment. And these sucked.

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John Z. Delorean writes:
on Mar 24 2008 04:02 PM

Alba and McMahon were weak?! Yeah, that's all that was wrong with these movies.

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wxguy writes:
on Mar 24 2008 04:43 PM

Thank goodness these movies are done. They sucked royally. They were as bad as Spiderman 3 and Xmen 3.

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turdbox360 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 05:12 PM

I never dug the comics, so I'm not particularly upset by this news. I thought Evans was one of the stronger cast members, and I generally think Alba is weak in basically everything she's been in. Movie studios should've figured that out after Dark Angel was cancelled.

I don't know, it's just disappointing that with so many amazing special effects in movies, most of the superhero movies are still mostly mediocre at best. Seriously, we can go on about some of the better ones (and we all have our favorites) but really, they never, ever live up to our expectations because either the casting is awful (Tobey as Peter Parker, Alba as Sue Storm), they totally ba**ardize storylines or characters (X3), or they give you the obligatory "origin" movie, when the vast majority of people who go to see it already know how the hero ends up with their powers (I mean for God's sake, who in this day and age DIDN'T know how Peter Parker became Spiderman? And does anybody give a crap about Bruce Banner becoming the Hulk?).
I'm holding out hope for IronMan, but once again, I don't care about watching Stark BECOME IronMan...I just want to watch him fight and blow stuff up.

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soulfinger writes:
on Mar 24 2008 05:23 PM

The first FF film was absolutely miserable. No plot and dialogue that was seemingly written by 12-year-olds. No big loss that they aren't making a third.

I was fairly impressed with Evans' acting in Sunshine. I almost didn't recognize him at first. Hopefully he can put this FF debacle behind him and move forward with his career.

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Sleeper writes:
on Mar 24 2008 05:31 PM

Good superhero movies are those taken seriously since pre-production. Neither of the Fantastic 4 flicks were on that road. A serious director with love for the comic book characters and will to make them appear real and authentic is the first step for making a great comic book movie.

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TheAnswerMVP2001 writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:12 PM

I actually enjoyed the first film...the second one was pretty bad though.

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I_am_Jack's... writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:30 PM

um...the first one sucked. but the 2nd was actually pretty enjoyable i thought. Gruffud (mr.fantastic) was easily the worst casting call. I wish they would at least end with a trilogy...but oh well. i'll just look for a silver surfer movie.

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CoUcH ToMaToE DoUgIe writes:
on Mar 24 2008 07:54 PM

wow, there is a god!!! these movies are some of the worst

abominations ever made and honestly wish everyday Marvel would donate all the

money they made on these disgraces to Kirby and Lee's vision. It's so sad to

know the best family superhero film will never be about comic's first family.

Instead, the incredibles wll always have that honor and thats not a bad

thing but i always hope that honor would be to a fantastic four film. well

at least an act of mercy has finally been put into service and we can

finally move on from the horrors Marvel gave us. I hope someday Marvel finds

their own Chris Nolan to save this great comic franchise... and hopefully he

could also fix daredevil, electra, ghost rider and probably many many more

marvel heroes.

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Marktime writes:
on Mar 24 2008 08:09 PM

thank god!

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Trufire writes:
on Mar 24 2008 08:19 PM

In terms of the super hero film craze going around, these were one of the lower end products. I thought they were somewhat enjoyable at times but they just didn't feel as though they had the umph to really make them great. I am a bit suprised that they aren't going for round three on this franchise. If they had a really good script and character development then it would really be good.

I wouldn't be suprised if they make a Silver Surfer movie spin off though. They left that ending open at the end of the film plus they have done this thing before. See Electra from Daredevil (both pretty not so good movies).

On a side note, that will never be Galactus and was the worst excuse for that EVER! I refuse to believe that and they better bring him back in a different movie as the great villian that he is. Also waiting for Apocolypse (sp?) to make his apperance. Any ideas for when his face will show up in a film and which hero franchise they decide to throw him in?

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DrNvrmore writes:
on Mar 24 2008 10:23 PM

After returning this evening and reading everyones messages it is obvious that despite that "fact" that the first one was not well done and fairly cheesy we all went and seen the 2nd one.

I maintain that the 2nd was better mostly due to the LACK of plot and dialogue! The film amp-ed up the action and FXs which was pretty cool. When Torch had all the FFs powers come on that was some cool $#!t! Doom was still poorly acted and I did miss Doom's dialogue staying true to the comics. As for Galactus I didn't mind it that much - they took the idea from the modernized version found in the Ultimate FF comic books. Silver Surfer looked great and voiced like I thought he might sound. I do agree that the board separation plot line was hard to take but come on they have to fit the movie into 90-120 minutes and they had 6 major characters trying to get screen time.

I maintain the the FF movies were no worse acted than the X-Men movies past Prof. X, Magneto and Wolverine - Halle Berry was a joke as Storm! African-Goddess Revlon Cover Girl?

Super Hero Movies with more than 2 or 3 central characters (including the villains) are always fairly "stretched" when it comes to plot and dialogue. Look at the Original Batman sequels, Spiderman 3, all the X-films, the FF movies...

That is why I am finding it interesting that Marvel has this plan to do individual movies on all their Avengers characters and then do the Avengers film. This seems like the way to go - if they don't drop the ball (ei: Daredevil, GhostRider, Elektra, The Hulk*). (*They are trying to correct The Hulk error.)

I think the 2 FF films weren't nearly as bad as it seems everyone thinks... Sometimes we have to remember that we first (or at least I did) 1st loved comics as children and if there is nothing to get children "into" comics then comic books will eventually be doomed. As I said in my original post - my 5 year old loves these movies and watching them through his eyes is pretty cool... If one of these movies came out when I was a kid I would have been blown away!

Note to hellraiserlvr: I love Alyssa Milano as much as anyone but she is "not that good" of an actress (just like Alba) but she is extremely hot and my dream-girl. For Examples see: Embrace of the Vampire, Poison Ivy 2, The Long Island Lolita Story, Charmed Ones and her most recent Emmy submission: Wisegal.

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ffamilyguy writes:
on Mar 25 2008 06:40 AM

F4 brought back the fun for kids to watch. My 6 year old son loves those movies! They need to make another one, regardless if the critics and all these wanna be critics on this forum (funny, get a life) talk smack. I think they will make one, but because of the writer's strike, they are holding off. I am sure they are going to wait on the actor's strike too, if that ever kicks in!

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rockster11 writes:
on Mar 25 2008 07:52 AM

Darn...... I dont think life is worth living anymore now that no more of these movies will be made..

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Thundaar writes:
on Mar 25 2008 08:31 AM

I agree that some 6 year olds probably would like FF4 films. I don't think that was their intended audience. Plus, if they would have shot a little higher - and made the films a little more serious - with better writing, they could have had a much bigger audience.

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TombstoneLawDog writes:
on Mar 25 2008 12:14 PM

okay, so I gotta vent about one more Alba aspect to this franchise:

What the F#CK was up with her hair and eyes in FF2?!

This is Vintage Jessica Alba:
http://images.google.com/images?rls=GGLR,GGLR:2005-38,GGLR:en&hl=en&q=Jessica Alba&gbv=2&safe=active

this is Alba in FF1:

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/ff/image/article/628/628985/fantastic-four-20050624024901289-000.jpg

This is Alba in FF2:

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/790/790644/fantastic-four-rise-of-the-silver-surfer-20070522020358711.jpg

She looked like f#cking Zombie Barbie! *Almost* was bad enough to distract from her body!

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punktuate writes:
on Mar 25 2008 02:46 PM

In reply to this comment (#1650495)
that was later on in the series he started out as kind of a ***** like it showed in the comics he was always this clumsy doekish guy where Sue was the one with more of a redheads authoritive bark....Reed didn't turn "I'm the man till he had saved the world a couple times

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quietus28 writes:
on Mar 25 2008 03:09 PM

Fantastic Four looked worse than the X-Men movies. I'm glad they're not
wasting time and money advertising a new movie, let alone making it. Now, if
only the X-Men franchise (and all its spin-offs) could lie down and die as
well...

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Ecs5001 writes:
on Mar 25 2008 03:27 PM

Everything about these two movies is just bad. Gruffud, Alba, Evans, and Mcmahon were all terribly miscast. The Surfer was voiced by Morpheus. The thing looked retarted and galactus looked like a ****in hurricane. Choppy script, unconvincing characters, and just typical hollywood. Please just end the misery for us all.

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nathanpoitras writes:
on Mar 25 2008 06:35 PM

I find this very very hard to believe. I don't think an actor like Chris Evans has a whole lot of say about anything regarding film production.

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turdbox360 writes:
on Mar 25 2008 08:26 PM

Okay, for all of you that are disappointed that they're not doing anymore sequels on account of your 6 year olds watching them (which for some odd reason is a lot of you today) - I totally understand wanting to take them to something like this that they'll get a kick out of...however, not only were they not the intended audience (I'm aiming a few years higher), but 6 year olds have no taste to begin with...I mean, they eat paste if you let them. I mean really, don't let people who eat paste be a deciding factor on whether a comic franchise is going to be further ruined or not.

...honestly, I don't really care all that much. I just wanted to make a crack about kids eating paste. It's funny to me.

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Matanuki writes:
on Mar 26 2008 04:25 AM

In reply to this comment (#1653248)
lol. Silly, turdbox. Paste is for rabbits. ;-)

Seriously though, I gotta agree with ya on your point. Tombstone as well, indeed what the hell was going on with Alba's eyes and hair?!!

I'd say at this point, the only downside to this franchise not getting a third film is that we won't get to see Story fulfill his promise to bring in Black Panther. But then, after Galactus, Doom, and that silly business with the Surfer getting weak when separated from his board, maybe that's actually a good thing.

I have to play to my inexorable superficialities in saying that I wouldn't mind seeing Alba prance around one more time in that suit. And you a$$holes that are saying otherwise are LYING! ;-)

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renodc writes:
on Mar 26 2008 11:13 AM

The Fantastic Four has always had great potential for the movies. Unfortunately, Tim Story as director was a gamble that didn't produce, and the storylines for the two films were very superficial.
Although what ultimately killed both films for me, was the casting of Jessica Alba as Sue Storm. Other than being extraordinarily hot, she has absolutely nothing about her that would make you think, "Hey she would be a great Sue Storm", and she isn't talented enough as an actress to make up for the fact that she doesn't fit the part. Jessica Alba playing a decorated research scientist was almost as funny as Tara Reid playing an archeologist in "Alone in the Dark".

With a better a cast, hopefully including Chris Evans, and a director more suited to this genre, the Fantastic Four could be a great franchise.

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TombstoneLawDog writes:
on Mar 26 2008 12:57 PM

I apparently really give a crap about this discussion. 3 posts!

I really need to add that I thought Alba was *acceptable* in the first one, which I generally liked over-all as a frilly, meaningless exercise--which I think it was put out to be. And I thought they capitalized on her hotness almost in the fashion of a 'hot scientist with glasses' fantasy.

I thought the whole second movie was just too overwrought from start to finish for the reasons everybody here says, including my own beef with the 'Zombie Barbie' thing.

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demuxer writes:
on Mar 27 2008 08:03 AM

forget the past!!!

IMO a 3rd movie may rescue a bit, and close this as a decent trilogy.

they must put attention to the script, the human torch involved in mafia, entertainment, working in his own, as he said many times. In the second you cant believe they arent doing nothing by theirselves.

also, the FF separated, splited. and the director/writers must make Alba to work and act, not just to be an adornment

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Kyokushin writes:
on Mar 27 2008 11:12 AM

There isn't any cast that can help this movie.

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Rockslide writes:
on Mar 27 2008 05:04 PM

I think Chris Evans was the best cast of these movies, no one else really fit. The Thing should have been CGI -brace yourselves- a la Hulk. They really should have a qualified action director. Tim Story is fine for other things but this was just too big for him. FF is a little hokey to begin with but I think it could be done right.

As is, I agree with a handful here who have said these are great movies for kids. Very safe and kid-friendly which is nice in itself. The Marvel fan in me though, wants something a bit more developed and "epic."

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wiccan_lad77 writes:
on Mar 28 2008 08:59 PM

the films were of no quality. both films failed with the critics. plus, they ruined galactus.

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JohnnyCab writes:
on Mar 29 2008 12:10 AM

In reply to this comment (#1658276)
Honestly, how can anyone be upset over the depiction of Galactus? I was actually beginning to cringe in anticipation of seeing a giant, purple headed freak floating in the sky. The cloudy thing was pretty cool and a pleasant surprise.

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Trufire writes:
on Mar 29 2008 12:25 PM

In my opinion, you just don't change the fundamental apperance of a supervillian. Perhaps they could have made him be able to change size thus making him more normal sized human or just had him as a rather large giant. Perhaps having him to the huge perportions that he really is would have made the charecter less credible but I find that the depiction that they choose was rather lame simply because I felt no charecter within it. One giant cloud creating havoc across the universe isn't the same as a supervillian plotting and scheming. That's just my two cents on that front.

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agtatoo writes:
on Apr 02 2008 11:43 PM

This article alone makes me appreciate the fact that Evans has a good head on his shoulders and is now focusing on better roles. He knows that his career can't rely on the "Fantastic Four" films--or his good looks. He's now getting better as an actor. Good for him.

Now, all I have to do is wait for a reboot of the FF franchise--with a much better director, a better cast (sorry Chris), and better screen-writers this time. I'm down.

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pieterk writes:
on Apr 09 2008 11:36 PM

Being a huge fan of the comics, I really looked forward and enjoyed the first installment. Not hugely stimulating, but very entertaining. The second one was a huge dissapointment. As far as acting, I had my doubts from the beginning, but the torch wa pretty good. The team could have been casted much better! And what about the Thing!! One would expect with FX of the day that they would create something great, instead his suit looked like a very expensive halloween costume, not real at all.

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tuswraith writes:
on Apr 10 2008 06:14 AM

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Whatever you're smoking must be pretty good......."no worse than any of the 3 X-Men Movies?" Are you insane? X-Men 1 and 2 were SOLID superhero movies directed by Bryan Singer, with 2 being amazing. X-Men 3 was sloppy, I admit, but is still FAR better than Fantastic Four. The 2-pack of Fantastic Four will be in the bargain bin at Wal-Mart for $3 with a $10 mail in rebate, just so that you'll take that piece of crap off of their hands.

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agtatoo writes:
on Apr 12 2008 10:47 PM

It seems like Chris Evans has a good head on his shoulders. Seems to be taking his career seriously as an actor and is relying on much more serious roles now. He knows that he doesn't have to rely on the FF films. And I think it's best that these film come to a close.

But I am down for a reboot.

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Wpg_Virgo writes:
on May 04 2008 12:58 PM

I collected Fantastic Four comics when I was young, and I actually really enjoyed both of the movies. While they can't be confused with Casablanca or Citizen Kane I definitely prefer them to any of the Batman, X-Men or Spiderman movies. Superhero movies based on comic books are supposed to be fun, and they lose a lot if they take themselves too seriously. Campy and not-too-deep has its time and place. If Battlestar Galactica--which is brilliant on all levels--is my Ying, movies like the Fantastic Four are the Yang.

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ArFiG writes:
on Nov 26 2008 07:36 AM

Yea I agree with a lot of people about Evans. He does seem to be a pretty good actor. Anybody see Fierce people w/ Diane Lane. Evans plays a rich pretty-boy who is pretty f'ed up in the head. He pulls it off great, although his character is a huge dick.

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Simon S. writes:
on Dec 21 2008 02:32 PM

If they cant find a director and writer who have any respect for the material (as seen in the first and second film), then I wouldn't want them making a 3rd one.

How is we can get really good films like IronMan, the new Hulk, Spiderman and x-men and yet we still get the F4 films being treat to such nonsense.

About the only thing they got close to correct was the origins of the F4 powers, but even that was twisted to occur on a space station.

Beyond that you have to contend with a completely pointless origins film that had little action in it and Doom's abilities being completely wrong.

Then you had to contend with a lack of Shield in the second one
(replaced by some random military force) and Galactus being completely and utterly wrong and having very little screen time to match.

Then to top it off we have the Surfer somehow having the power to destroye Galactus? Bah!!!

How is it that we also had Stan Lee doing a cammio? Did he not look at the scripts and comment about how bad they were?

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