ROTTEN TOMATOES: Spider-Man 4 Script On Its Way Comments

Spider-Man 4 Script On Its Way

by Jeff Giles | October 31, 2007

Summary

The questions of who will be directing and starring in it remain unanswered, but Spider-Man 4 just got itself a screenwriter. Back to Article

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dahluzz writes:
on Oct 31 2007 06:32 AM

i'm surprised they hadn't yet included the lizard, especially since doc connors was in the first two movies (maybe the third as well. i don't know, i fell asleep and woke up to the abomidable sand monster trouncing around town.) His character would create some interesting moral dilemas for parker and, if animated right, could be the ravenous beast venom was supposed be but wasn't. carnage is cool, too, since he can make weapons and crap out of his hands, but I think the producers will find he's too similar to venom and more obscure. they could use the vulture for some high-flying combat sequences. i think lizard on the ground or in the sewers, vulture in the air, good villain balance. if this is any worse than 3, they're officially trying to fail.

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rustdog writes:
on Oct 31 2007 06:34 AM

Watched Spidey 3 last night. It's just as bad the second time you watch it. If they want to do a 4th at least get someone who wants to take the project seriously.

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Dinalfos 2 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 06:44 AM

It better be good this time. And if Sam Raimi directs again, I'm not interested.

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0LDB0Y writes:
on Oct 31 2007 06:58 AM

I say Uwe Boll should be hired to direct Spiderman 4.

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Vicens17 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 07:23 AM

After the disgrace that Raimi gave us in 3, I really have no interest unless they change directors.

Raimi, move on.

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Merlin235 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 07:38 AM

If you actually watch the special features on SP3, you'll learn why MJ was in the climax, why Gwen was in the movie, why they did Venom the way they did, and a lot of answers to the questions people whine about on here. You'll also learn that SP3 wasn't (all) Raimi's fault, and if you actually read the text above you'll learn that they seem to have learned their lesson and moved on. If you liked SP1 and SP2, why think Raimi can't do it again with less involvement by Avi Arad, who isn't with Marvel anymore.
Everyone is allowed one mistake, in my book.

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Metafact writes:
on Oct 31 2007 07:47 AM

Good point. We're all human, and we all make mistakes. Besides, it's not as if Spider-Man 3 was like Batman & Robin or anything. Give him a chance to redeem himself, I say.

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drtruebl writes:
on Oct 31 2007 07:54 AM

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Agreed. Seriously am I the only one who liked Spider-man 3? It was not as good as the first couple movies but was still enjoyable.

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Man_Of_Iron8905 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:09 AM

People, shut up about Raimi. As long as they don't FORCE him to add something he doesn't want to do, he'll make it great. One bad movie (not even that bad) and everyone exiles him.

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blank blank writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:19 AM

yes raimi should be excused a little for the abomination of sp3, as having venom forced upon him by the producers was unfair, and even though i really wanted to see a great venom, i can excuse him for that. that being said there are parts of the movie that i really really hate and are pure raimi.

but even if sp3 didnt suck, i would still push for a whole new team. not just raimi, but mcguire and dunst. lets have them move on to other stuff. plus, sp3 suggests a change in tone for the series from here on out. show me something we havent seen before! as long as they dont go all hack director (cough cough, brett ratner) on us, i would like to see a new vision for spiderman.

as for villains, lizard has to be one of them, and he has to be really terrifying. not terrifying to a 5 year old, but legitimately scary. the other villain im not so sure about. bring venom back for a second shot? carnage might be a little too comic booky. a less cheesy mysterio maybe? i know he's somewhat of a bit villain, but carrion? i guess we will find out. but nothing until 2010 at least please.

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tonight we dine.. IN HECK writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:23 AM

Gonna be Lizard and Kraven. Lizard is unable to control his actions, and Spidey doesn't want him dead because he's his teacher, but Kraven the Hunter is assigned to hunt down and kill the Lizard. So Spidey intervenes. :]

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blank blank writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:32 AM

nobody is exiling raimi, i would love to see him do the hobbit. its just that after setting such a high standard, he hands in a complete turd of a movie. its fine when some hack like mark steven johnson royally ****s up ghost rider, because you really dont expect much from him, but when a talented guy like raimi does it, it is very disappointing.

all of you who are defending raimi are saying "yeah he screwed up, but lets give him another chance". was sp3 as bad as elektra, or ghost rider, or FF? no, it wasnt. but isnt it safe to say that you guys were expecting much much more out of SP3?

and merlin, in my opinion, if i have to watch 5 hours of special features to begin to understand why i should like the movie, then the movie probably sucks.

again, im not blasting raimi when i say that they should bring in a whole new team, im just saying its time for a shift for the franchise as a whole.

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Xavier Telouran writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:36 AM

There's still plenty to choose from, but let's just let the writer do the producing, not Avi, not Sam, and sure as hell not Ted Raimi. One idea: let's show some love for everyone's favorite punching bag the Rhino and beat him up in an opening sequence. No plot, no depth, just a few minutes of carnage with America's Dumbest Criminal. Then move on to whomever we're really fighting.

A list of some still-availables: Kraven, Lizard, Mysterio, Carnage, Electro, Chameleon, Scorpion, The Spider-Slayers and the Smythes.

Idea Two: Crossover. The Human Torch has been in the comics since way back, so isn't it time Chris Evans crossed over for at least a bit part in one of these Spidey movies?

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Xavier Telouran writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:37 AM

Whoops, that's writer do the writing, not producing. Darn my lack of editing qualifications...

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Heath Huxall writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:50 AM

Well, this is good news IMO. At least we know (well, we can assume we know) that the writing of this film will be much better than in the previous Spidey. Hopefully along with a change in vision with the screenplay, we'll also get a change in vision in film direction. Time for change.

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black_parade writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:54 AM

Ok listen up you wanna be's. Spider-Man is deeper than a guy in a costume, the movies are actually about the moral dilema of a person who is a superhero. Granted the third should have been shorter and they should have saved Venom for a later movie, it wasn't completely terrible. And to OldBoy never say anything for the rest of your life. Uwe Bll sucks butt and should crawl under a rock and die. Doc Conners has only been in two movies. And the 4th should be about the lizard and Kraven the Hunter coming to new york to hunt him. Peter knowing it's doc conners would try to save him, turning the city agaisnt him, Giving the film so moral like the others. Standing for whats right even though everyone else is against you. Sam Raimi is perfect to direct and produce spider-man. They would have to pick someone awesome if they don't use him for me to even considner seeing the 4th

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Merlin235 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:54 AM

Blank Blank....true, if you have to watch special features to make the movie better, that isnt' a good thing. But I found it really interesting to know that Gwen Stacy was supposed to be in the finale, but they insterted MJ b/c they thought it lacked any emotion with Gwen. It's more for people complaining about why Venom looked the way he did, than for someone who complains about the silly dance scene. There's no explaining that one away.
As for villains, I'd do Venom and the Lizard. I'd keep Topher, make him all scarred from getting so burned in SP3, keep his voice deep like they did when he was possessed by the symbiote, and make him buff up considerably. Get in the good Dr. Connors to help Spidey combat Venom, while also creating the Lizard. It might actually be too much, but at least we'd be down to two villains. I personally like the one villain approach, but that's just me. They can't do the 'crazy scientist' theme for too long, if the only did the Lizard in this one I'd be the first one complaining.

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blank blank writes:
on Oct 31 2007 09:10 AM

i like topher grace, and i liked him as a dark peter, but i hated his take on venom. i would go with another character being taken over by the symbiote. and i'd have mary jane go off to LA and be a successful actress while peter gets to know gwen stacy more.

the best thing about the spiderman movie is j.k simmons. he is hilarious as jjj.

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Sparky123 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 09:21 AM

I would love see Sam Raimi helm another Spidey movie. He is a true Spidey fan and wants to do the hero justice. As for the next villains, I would love to see Rhino and Electro. How cool would those two characters be? Or maybe the Scorpion. I always loved the Scorpion as a kid.

Also, J.K Simmons is the perfect JJJ.

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TheGreatOne13 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 09:33 AM

Zodiac was awesome so this is great news

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AmazingAndrex writes:
on Oct 31 2007 09:44 AM

At least they accept that SM3 wasn't as good as it could've been, that's a HUGE first step.

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bluthboy2342 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 10:13 AM

this is the best thing that could happen to the spider-man franchise right now. Zodiac was an amazing movie, de in large part to Vanderbilt's character driven script. so yay.

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black_parade writes:
on Oct 31 2007 10:22 AM

Ok listen up you wanna be's. Spider-Man is deeper than a guy in a costume, the movies are actually about the moral dilema of a person who is a superhero. Granted the third should have been shorter and they should have saved Venom for a later movie, it wasn't completely terrible. And to OldBoy never say anything for the rest of your life. Uwe Bll sucks butt and should crawl under a rock and die. Doc Conners has only been in two movies. And the 4th should be about the lizard and Kraven the Hunter coming to new york to hunt him. Peter knowing it's doc conners would try to save him, turning the city agaisnt him, Giving the film so moral like the others. Standing for whats right even though everyone else is against you. Sam Raimi is perfect to direct and produce spider-man. They would have to pick someone awesome if they don't use him for me to even considner seeing the 4th

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FranklinStreet writes:
on Oct 31 2007 10:29 AM

If the Spider-Man series has a problem, it's essentially that each movie has been repeating itself. That's why my interest has tapered off-- I don't need to see the same movie 3 times. That said, i don't understand the hate for SP3. While it had a few problems here and there, most of the faults of SP3 were also there in SP1 and SP2. I have a feeling the people criticizing SP3 are teenagers who took a significant maturity jump from the time of release between the first one to the last one, and went into SP3 expecting it to be different type of movie than the rest of the series. They need to go back and watch the first 2 films again, because tonally not much has changed, and I think they're just watching the new movie from a different perspective, and their memory of the first two movies is colored by their youth.

Anyway, Vanderbilt sounds like a good choice for SP4. Here's hoping that he helps move the series forward. I wouldn't mind a different director, someone like Fincher who would make the series darker and ground it more-- but Raimi does what he does so well that short of a miracle, you're almost guaranteed to get a worse film by replacing him. A truly visionary director like Fincher may have little to no interest in a super-hero film, and do you really want to throw the Spider-Man franchise at someone like Mark Steven Johnson, the Rat, or Tim Story? I think it's likely that if they replace Raimi, everyone will end talking about how great his Spider-Man films were and will whine constantly about wanting him back.

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moviemonkey2 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 10:33 AM

Easiest way to make Spidey 4 a hit with all the guys who grumbled about Spidey 3....

Jessica Biel as Black Cat. :D

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mysteriousone writes:
on Oct 31 2007 11:36 AM

ya know eventhough spider-man 3 was a massive dissapointment, you gotta give it to sony. they obviously really care about the charcter and the movies. the first two movies were great and eventhough the third one wasn't it still made a fortune. a lesser studio wouldn't care and just keep popping out garbage to make a buck, but they seem to understand that quality is the key to longevity and aren't wasting no time to get the series back on track.

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Vortex&Vertigo writes:
on Oct 31 2007 11:43 AM

What's all the hate with Raimi?, I did not like SP3 but few Directors are flawless. Every once in a while they do a bobo.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 11:51 AM

Again i love this, the nerds on this site think the movie sucks, but the vast majority of the world loves it, again the nerds are dellusional.

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moodymaverick writes:
on Oct 31 2007 11:55 AM

Raimi is King. Hail to the King, baby!!

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RainNIU writes:
on Oct 31 2007 12:31 PM

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Dude...We've been down that road before. It's old.

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stg writes:
on Oct 31 2007 12:50 PM

Although raimi messed up on the third one but the reason is his own doing, had he not set such a high benchmark on spidey 2, we would all be raving that spidey 3 was a good movie on its own. The one problem that i have had with the whole franchise is the character aspect of spidey that has been missing through out the movies. If you guys remember the popular cartoon series the reason i loved it was the sarcastic and self depracating humour of spider-man and the taunting jibes he had with the villians that seems to be misssing in the movies apart from a few small doses, tobey's portrayal of spidey is really dry(for lack of a better word).

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blank blank writes:
on Oct 31 2007 01:19 PM

"widely reckoned as overly cumbersome"

sounds like the majority didnt like the movie aknddon3... are you really excluding yourself from the nerds? which nerd was it who bitched and moaned about the inclusion of jon stewart green lantern in JL? ah right... it was aknddon3. so you're telling me you actually liked the crap that was sp3? tsk tsk

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LostHeroesHell writes:
on Oct 31 2007 01:43 PM

I liked Spider-Man 3. But I agree that with 3 villains it could have had more action. I think for Spider-Man 4 they should have it be Lizard and Kraven...or if not those two then include Vulture in there somewhere. Another idea could be to have like the movie open with Spider-Man foiling a robbery attempt by like Rhino or Shocker or some other minor villain.....but if it had to be one major and one minor villain..I would vote for Scorpion as the major villain of the film and maybe Shocker as the minor....but if this does well and they do a SM5....I would like to see Hog-Goblin and Hydro-Man in that one.

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lilheclou writes:
on Oct 31 2007 01:49 PM

bing on spidy 4 i thought all the movies were great unlike the people on this site and i think this move will have lizard, carnage, and maby a return sandman as someting like harry villian/hero they should find a way for venom to come and make it up for those people who don't like how he was used personaliy i thought venom was used good because all he is a mindlees villian to fight spidy its not like he was g goblin or doc ock who can hold a hole movie.

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CoUcH ToMaToE DoUgIe writes:
on Oct 31 2007 01:52 PM

In reply to this comment (#1236591)
moviemonkey2, as the number one black cat fan, i luv your idea but

not too fond of the actress. biel is real hot but she already said no the jla movie as

wonder woman, why would she yes to this then? plus, after spurning my fanboy a

affections away with the jla rejection, i say screw you biel, we will find some other

acting limited playmate "actress" to play felicia hardy, m'kay?:) Still, i am stoked

that they got the guy from zodiac to do the next film. i mean wow, they got this guy?!?!

wow, marvel really means business in keeping spidey franchise alive and kicking with

all parties involved!! as for my hopes i really like the idea of norman comig back

slowly and hopefully killing off someone peter loves and finish the entire series off

with spidey finally ridding his life of his greatest pain, the osborn family, and

swinging off into the sunset with either mary jane or my preference gwen in his arms.

it would be nice payback for fans who have suffered watching hwen be treated so badly

even after her untimely demise and it would be a nice touch to give the fans of peter

and gwen a nice reminder of a happy ending peter never got to experience in the comics.

of course, that would mean killing mary jane, but hey that also means killing kristen

dunst and that wouldn't be bad at all.

still, i also, like the idea u guys have been playing around about kraven and the

lizard. but that means i better see kraven bury spidey alive just like in the comics

because honestly kraven doing that was one of the greatest moments in spidey's history.

still, don't discount the chameleon, for the zodiac guy. and i hope raimi returns to

prove all his idiotic haters wrong. and please go away Troll, adkonn3, please.

Happy Halloween everyone:) even to that troll, as well.

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WiseGuy writes:
on Oct 31 2007 02:30 PM

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I'm really liking the idea of seeing a SpiderMan 4 that deals with the Lizard and Kraven. If it's done in any way like you put it black parade I'd be the first in line.

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Merlin235 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 02:41 PM

Personally, I'd like to seem them do the opposite from the comics: Kill MJ, and have Peter end up with Gwen. That would be interesting.

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The Arrow writes:
on Oct 31 2007 03:24 PM

I hoep its new actors, new director, Raimi can stay as Producer, definetly new writers and that the last movie is somewhat ignored. Hopefully the tone is a little more serious. I don't mind it being fun and amusing but SM3 was campy as hell.

Hopefully SM 4 will be a new begining. I hope its called something else like the amazing Spider-man or the Spectacular Spider-Man so as to ensure itself of seperation from the previous trilogy.

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stoober writes:
on Oct 31 2007 03:50 PM

i thought spiderman 3 was decent. It certainly wasn't on par with 1 or 2, but it wasn't nearly as bad as it was made out to be. True, the scenes where Peter is strutting are really awful, but other than that i couldn't find much wrong with it.

I'd rather they let the series go than recast. I hate it when they do that and pretend that its the same. I'd prefer a series reboot the the recast, but i'd rather not have that either. If they can't all get their acts together for a 4th installment, let it go.

And Zodiac was brilliant so there is a ray of hope.

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N720MF writes:
on Oct 31 2007 05:28 PM

Zodiac had a rock solid script, so that's good news to hear the new screenwriter has some good work behind him.

Mysterio and Chameleon could work, something to do with mistaken identities, illusion, and misdirection. Shapeshifters can add intrigue to a movie, like Mystique in X-Men.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 06:35 PM

Oh the nerds are dellusional, it is so funny.

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TheAnswerMVP2001 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 06:35 PM

All I have to say is Venom better be back, if not, he got an extremely bum rap. He deserves full screen time not 5 minutes.

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LostHeroesHell writes:
on Oct 31 2007 07:17 PM

I like the idea that they are having the Zodiac guy come in to write it, because Zodiac was an incredible movie....but the only downside is...Zodiac was based off real events with real characters...whereas Spider-Man is not..so will the outcome still be up to par with Zodiac?

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a_master_3000 writes:
on Oct 31 2007 07:47 PM

i think that they actually could bring venom back for the fourth film. think about it, venom in part 3 was eddie brock JR. they could somehow get the symbiote to get on eddie's dad, who could then be all buff and stuff and make venom a lot more buffed out like in the cartoons. that would be sweet.

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Breakfast writes:
on Oct 31 2007 08:22 PM

this is comic books and such and marvel no less and no one ever dies in marvel comics. So it is completely feasible for Venom to return and Doc Ock. Who stays dead BESIDES Captain Mar-vel?

NO ONE.

Heck, even those idiots at DC got in on the act and brougght back Jason TOdd. *HUGE GROAN*

I dont care if he was from an altrernate universe or not that was so stupid it defied 20 years of comic book logic.

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eastern2western writes:
on Nov 01 2007 12:10 AM

Whoever is going to write the new script should have a better understanding of modern youth culture. The most laughable part about sm3 is the portrayl of so call bad peter parker. One of the most absurd parts is having peter parker dance to jazz music. During the production, some one should at least tell the producers that jazz has not been popular with today's youth for the last twenty year or so (purchased a lot of jazz cds from store's bargain bins and they are cheaper than prices of cd cases). Decrease the number of villains is also a good idea because sm3 almost went Joe Schaumarcher on the audience. Personally, I just think the next sequels need a serious reboot (change actors, directors,writers and producers) before they become the next Batman and Robbin (near gay porn).

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deneco4 writes:
on Nov 01 2007 12:43 AM

Any change is a good change at this point in my opinion.

Get Raimi, Dunst, Franco, and Toby off of it. They dont wanna do it anyway. Get new blood, blood that actually is grateful for the ****ing opportunity.

Same guy whos doing wolverine...ill bite.

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stg writes:
on Nov 01 2007 03:29 AM

agree with TheAnswerMVP2001 Venom deserves a better portrayel topher grace as venom was an awful cruel joke, even The Rock would have been a better Venom.

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Timbo0075 writes:
on Nov 01 2007 03:41 AM

Sony is doing excactly what you haters of Spidey 3 should consider good. It's a new approach and 3 wasn't even that bad!

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Shatter24 writes:
on Nov 01 2007 09:33 AM

In reply to this comment (#1236400)
Big agreement on this, Lizard and Kraven the Hunter should be the baddies. Also, take the movie out of New York, put it in Florida (Miami - Everglades, could be cool). Say Parker is doing a Master's Degree project w/ Dr. Connor down in Florida and go with it.

Keep MJ out of this one, maybe bring Gwen Stacey back or introduce the Black Cat girl (but don't have her costume up until a sequel).

Finally, Spiderman 3 was just as good as the prior films in the series. The original was probably the best (slightly), but 2 was plot heavy & action low, while 3 was action heavy & plot busy but not too heavy. It didn't need to be heavy, b/c everything had already been established in the first two!

Bring Raimi back and keep out these '80s-90s cornball villains, and let him deal w/ the original '60s-'70s baddies.

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gnotleo writes:
on Nov 02 2007 08:05 AM

in a agree with deneco4, if tobey, kirsten, and others dont wanna be involved in SM4, just leave. tobey dropped out of school at age 12 in order to be an actor. for him having the involvement in SM4 is a big opportunity for him. It doesnt make sense, but i hope him and kirsten still stay. just for us and make it seem like a real movie when seeing it.

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STICKY_ICKY_01 writes:
on Nov 02 2007 01:25 PM

SPIDER-MAN 3 WAS GOOD BUT NOT BETTER THAN 2 OR 1 I WISHED THAT VENOM WOULD HAVE MORE MUSCLES AND THAT HE DIDNT DIE SO HE CAN BE IN SPIDERMAN 4 WITH CARNAGE SINCE DR.CONNORS DOES HAVE A LITTLE PART OF THE SIMBIOT AND ALSO THE VILLAINS I LIKE TO SEE IS VENOM,CARNAGE, AND THE LIZARD BUT SINCE THERES ONLY TWO VILLAINS IN THE 4TH ID SAY CARNAGE AND THE LIZARD THE THE LIZARD WOULD DIE THEN IN THE 5TH THEY COULD PUT VENOM AND CARNAGE IF THEY MAKE A 5TH

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Nov 03 2007 06:55 AM

In reply to this comment (#1236772)
Isn't it incredible how every movie aknddon loves is also loved by the majority, and how every movie he hates is hated by the majority?

Because EVERYONE hates Pan's Labyrinth aknddon.

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I Am Remote writes:
on Nov 05 2007 10:40 AM

I hope this gets bogged down in development hell, and abandonned. Unless this guy is writing a reboot, I'll pass. All these movies have been disappointing and laughable, not just poor adaptations, but poor writing and filmmaking.

Another huge problem: how do you go from the Goblins, Ock and Venom... to the Lizard? or any of the remaining villains? They should have paced themselves here and they've painted themselves into a corner... and the result undermines more of the spirit of source material. I don't know how fans of the movies now will feel with a series ending with Spider-Man fighting... who? Rhino? Hydro-Man? Wow. Epic.

Ditch this garbage.

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mysteriousone writes:
on Nov 05 2007 02:04 PM

In reply to this comment (#1253304)
your obviously a star wars moron. i mean i love star wars to, but you are obviously a moron.

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pinkincide writes:
on Nov 06 2007 11:57 PM

Hopefully they will pack 6 villains into this one. If we learned anything from #3, it's that MORE VILLAINS = MORE BETTER MOVIE. Do the math, folks.

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D.M.L. writes:
on Nov 21 2007 08:50 PM

Spider-Man 3 was a great film, my favorite of the trilogy to be honest. I haven't seen Zodiac, but I've heard many great things about it, so I consider this wonderful news.

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D.M.L. writes:
on Nov 21 2007 08:53 PM

In reply to this comment (#1236772)
Aknddon3, I love Spidey 3, but your view and opinion here is just retarded. Alot of people disliked the film, not loved it. But when this is coming from someone who argued and made a jackass out of himself on the Harry Potter forum saying that Prisoner of Azkaban and Pans Labrynth were hated by the majority of people, it isn't surprising.

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Random Dude writes:
on Nov 22 2007 03:38 PM

I loved spiderman 3, i loved the venom idea hes my favorite villian out of all the comics. But if they use someone like Mistero in the 4th film ... screw it im not seeing it lol.

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Random Dude writes:
on Nov 22 2007 03:43 PM

i might see it but theres better villians out there than misterio. Carnage would be awesome but he should be used in the last film they do. there gonna use Lizard in the 4th film tho, theres supposed to be a 2nd villian but who?

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lovernotfighter9 writes:
on Jan 15 2008 05:21 AM

I thought sp3 was great, the second one was the bummer for me, i think the 4th one should be scorpion, lizard, and maybe rhino

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spaceman167 writes:
on Feb 04 2008 06:14 AM

In reply to this comment (#1236383)
no dude u arent alone. i loved the 3rd one and i agree it wasnt as good as 1 and 2 but still was very enjoyable!

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spaceman167 writes:
on Feb 04 2008 06:21 AM

In reply to this comment (#1236473)
i totally 100% agree.

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-apocolyptic- writes:
on Mar 27 2008 08:09 PM

spiderman 4:
due to the alien symbiote, the fusion from the sandman and just explosion from the green goblins bomb, Venom/Eddie brock is sent to a altenate universe. It opens many doors and leads him back to the moment that MJ and Peter are comforting Harry.

He leaves, wounded and scarred.

Meanwhile a thief by the name of Cletus Cassidy(?) break in to the university to steal a new type of hydroponic. IN doing so he not only attracts the attention of the symbiote, but that of Curt Connors.

Curt tries to wrestle with Cletus, but loses, due his lack of appendages. In the struggle they knock over the container holding the symbiote and it attachese itself to Cletus.

Two fold effect.

Carnage is in the beggining stages and Curt tries to rectify his arm.

A little hokey in the beginning, but I don't know the exact science of it all.

But it gives origin to Carnage AND the Lizard.

And it is mine, all mine.......ha ha ha ha.

OH. Sorry.

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badboyvicious writes:
on Apr 08 2008 05:04 PM

there is no way venom died venom is spiderman's main character he had to transport back up in space or something because in a few comic books and movies he was teleporting I also think carnage is going to be in spiderman4 and some of you guys make no sense at all what was wrong with spiderman3 spiderman3 was with the business the best spiderman yet

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huntsman85 writes:
on Jun 04 2008 03:09 PM

Don't want to see it. In my opinion they need to scrap these movies and redo them. Tobey Maguire is a terrible spiderman. His demeanor is completely wrong.

They need to redo this like they are redoing the Hulk

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