ROTTEN TOMATOES: McG Opens Up About Terminator 4, Starts One Very Intriguing Rumor Comments

McG Opens Up About Terminator 4, Starts One Very Intriguing Rumor

by Jeff Giles | February 07, 2008

Summary

There's been a lot of talk about Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins, but the sequel's much-maligned director, McG, has stayed above the fray. Until now, that is. Back to Article

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Shatter24 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 06:14 AM

There were three prior movies, not two. Has McG see the other films, or was his remark just taken out of context? We've already had judgment day in T3, I hope this won't be too much of a re-hash. And what about the initial terminators with rubbery looking skin (see explanation in T1), shouldn't these be used initially or are we just forgetting about that?

Continuity people, even if its the future, build on what has come before or faith the fan's wrath!

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xenogears writes:
on Feb 07 2008 06:19 AM

One of the best things the first terminator (1) had going was that the terminator was a giant hulking mass of pure muscle with a face that looked like he never smiled. The second one had a liquid metal robot who shape shifted played by a guy who still to this day just looks evil. They gave you that feeling like even if they weren't killing machines you would still run away from thim. This movie needs the same. A person who looks so imposing and so intimidating that you feel the urge to run.

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frogleg writes:
on Feb 07 2008 06:24 AM

In reply to this comment (#1559753)
I really like Josh Brolin a lot. He sure doesn't make me think "Terminator", though.
I really dislike McG a lot. That's a bummer.
But who am I kidding? I'll probably watch it, especially if Bale's in it.

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John Z. Delorean writes:
on Feb 07 2008 06:32 AM

Brolin as the terminator? Only if he's a more advanced intelligent, great acting terminator. How 'bout Brolin as John Connors, Tommy Lee Jones as Connors old confidante and Javier Bardem as The Terminator. They can call it "No Future for T-800's".

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JoeloftheJungle writes:
on Feb 07 2008 06:48 AM

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Haha best...idea...ever...

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Livingston86 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 07:08 AM

T3 isn't canon anymore, as far as I can tell. The TV series replaces it. Say what you will about the show (I like it), but it fits in better with the first two movies, considering one of the first lines in T3 was a continuity error.

(John says he was 13 in T2, when he was actually only 10.)

And Summer Glau is a way better girl-terminator than Painkiller Jane.

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dahluzz writes:
on Feb 07 2008 07:18 AM

"This is the space between; this is post Judgment Day. So there really is no continuation, you know what I mean?"

umm, no McG, i really haven't the foggiest. you were asked if it the film takes place after 2 or 3. the end of 3 IS judgement day (skynet goes apesh*t and starts firing missiles, that's what they postponed at the end of 2 by destroying all of the terminator components), so if T4 takes place in 2019 then it IS after number three, not 'the space between.'

a brief timeline, courtesy of dates provided by imdb:
(note: the dates indicate the year in which the story is set, not the film's release.)

Terminator 1: 1984, original cyborg sent to kill sarah connor. fails. human guy from 2029 who was sent to protect sarah gets her preggo with son, john.

Terminator 2: 1995, john's 11-ish and an upgraded terminator is sent to kill him. his future self sends a copy of the terminator originally sent to kill his mother to protect his past self. it works. sarah and john destroy both of these terminators as well as remnants of the original terminator sent to kill sarah from 1984, effectively haulting judgement day (which was supposed to occur in 1997).

terminator 3: 2015, an even more upgraded terminator is sent to kill john again. his future wife and co-resistance leader reprograms and sends back the old-school terminator that assassinated john in the year 2032 to save the 31-year-old version of john (in 2015). it works, but judgement day is unavoidable and SkyNet ultimately launches its missiles. john and future wife katherine brewster initiate the resistance.

Terminator 4: 2019, I would suspect that the war is well underway and so, too, is the resistance. I really don't understand how this ISN'T a continuation, McG. chronologically it lines up with the preceeding three stories.

if i'm missing something here, please let me know, as i tried to piece this together.

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Oh Dae Su writes:
on Feb 07 2008 07:18 AM

In reply to this comment (#1559850)
You aren't very smart

The first terminator started with a set path, no change possible

Second one is the one that changed the original story by making it possible to change the future.

I didn't like the 3rd movie, but I liked how the moved back to the inevitable.

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Livingston86 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 07:43 AM

In reply to this comment (#1559855)
Serves me right for thinking a message board could be used for something other than bashing people...

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Kollikodon writes:
on Feb 07 2008 07:52 AM

Yeah Im a big fan of the 1st two.. the 3rd one is ok in my book.. but idk...

"This is the space between; this is post Judgment Day. So there really is no continuation, you know what I mean?"

Post Judgement Day is post T3.... so i guess not..

Idk.. I just hope they can keep the ball rolling on this film and hopefully everything can right itself out when they decide to make T5:Terminator in Space

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Gimy writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:19 AM

sniff sniff...he had me at Bana. holy lord, him and Bale facing off would be the sh3t. sorry, i'm a huge fan of his but...Jason Stathom? ok ok ok...so robots are strong but can't use rogaine? big deal. he's an ACTUAL bad3ss and i could see him being a good Terminator. but if Bale makes a frikkin "cameo"...i'm not pumped to see it, at all. this starts and ends with him in my opinion. the 3rd one was ok but the Terminator chic was absolutely laughable. she looked like she coulda been taken out by 300 cc's of Midol, woo...tough.

and am i right in assuming "the space between" means the time AFTER the "past" movies...but BEFORE the machines are defeated? not sure what other "between" he's talking about, or did he just take a bet that he couldn't reference a Dave Matthews Song in an interview...

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taran72 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:34 AM

Good cast or not, McG is a major-league hack. He sounds a little confused, like the whole idea is half-baked. This is a bad omen for Terminator fans.

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deneco4 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:37 AM

basically the movie will suck worse than 3. And he said all the actors of today are pussies.

Sadly, hes right. Nobody wants to see an illiterate buff dude as a main character.

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antiboy writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:39 AM

It's so hilarious now how every director in the world namedrops Brolin like it'll give them instant credibility. Would he make a good Terminator? OF COURSE NOT.

Would be make a good George W. Bush? Well, maybe. hahahaha.

But either way, he was amazing in No Country but that doesn't mean directors can expect him to be amazing in every role, especially some macho, brainless role like Terminator.

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BluMizu writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:40 AM

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"The second one had a liquid metal robot who shape shifted played by a guy who still to this day just looks evil."

That is SO true. I saw him on TV the other day and he freak me out. He wasn't even talking....

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TombstoneLawDog writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:48 AM

Over-all, McG (Dude, yer mom's name was 'McGinty'-- time to join us at the Grown-up table and have a FULL name) is the biggest thing bothering me about this sequel. His ramblings above did NOTHING to assuage my concerns. Dahluzz should fax a copy of his timeline to McG as a little light reading before principle photography begins.

Pro's:
1) Christian Bale
2) Bale, Christian
3) that one dude who's playing Batman, now.

Con's:
1-4) McG
5-7) The title: "Terminator Salvation: the Future Begins" ..quite possibly the suck-assest, most mealy-mouthed balls-free title I ever could've dreamed in my worst nightmares associated with such a cool franchise. These guys should hang out with the Producers of 'X-men Origins: Wolverine' or the Folks who came up with the new acronym for GIJOE, 'Global Integrated...'

The show's not bad, though, and I'm in love with Lena Heady.

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jokerboy1991 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:50 AM

Josh Brolin is cool, but I'm not sure having him as a Terminator. Yep McG does suc, but maybe with Christian Bale as John Connor it could be good.

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thereign writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:54 AM

It would be nice if McG(did he get his name off the dollar menu at McDonald's?) would read boards like this and realize how half-assed his ideas sound to us.

An over-hyped, overrated, hideous director who sounds like he doesn't have a clue as to how the Terminator series worked. It also sounds like he was just called in for a meeting to do a followup to "some series" called Terminator, and he has no idea what the stories were really about, but likes the title, and decided to sign on for a nice paycheck.

Josh Brolin as a Terminator? Are you Fu**ing kidding me?? Antiboy(great name!) has it absolutely right--every director name-drops Brolin and thinks it'll give them street cred. F**k off, McG...you're an idiot! And with all the action, explosions, etc...you better DAMN WELL keep Christian Bale safe on your set--he's got another Batman movie to do, fuc*-o!

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Xavier Telouran writes:
on Feb 07 2008 09:23 AM

OK, the big problem is we have McG tied to what SHOULD be a serious movie. Well, serious in the sense that it's not an overblown comedy about a '70s TV show. Next thing you know we'll get Michael Bay's MACBETH and the Farrelly Brothers' A TALE OF TWO CITIES. OK, maybe that's being a little bleak.

There's a reason this guy wasn't handed Superman Returns... and even though I wasn't a fan of Singer's end product either, I was at least HOPEFUL looking at his body of work.

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nathanpoitras writes:
on Feb 07 2008 09:57 AM

Tough following in James Cameron's footsteps, I think McG would have trouble following in Kirk Cameron's footsteps, could this be the first good movie he's made. It sure better be.

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BUCK69 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:03 AM

In reply to this comment (#1559749)
Continuity went out the window with the second movie...In the first, Reese explains that the humans had won, defeating skynet, but just before they did, skynet sent a terminator back in time to kill Sarah Conner. Reese was sent back to protect her and then the humans destroyed the time machine so nothing else could go through. How do these advanced terminators keep getting "upgraded" when skynet has been destroyed and how do they get sent back in time? Reese also states that nothing metal can be sent back unless its covered by living tissue. How does the T-1000, which is comprised solely of metal, go through the time portal???

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nathanpoitras writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:19 AM

I hope Summer Glau makes an appearance in the new trilogy, she's so much hotter than Schwarzenegger.

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Shatter24 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:20 AM

The future was changed by the Terminators going back in time, which is why the date of Judgment Day kept getting pushed back. I have no problem w/ that and accept it for all 3 movies and the TV show. But I agree with the living tissue problem. You see it again in the TV show, where the bad Terminator goes through the portal w/ John and Sarah, when he was blown open exposing his skeletal metal core. How do they explain that? (Of course I like the TV show, so I'm willing to give it a break on that one)

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arendr writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:23 AM

I like Josh Brolin, but please please please tell me he was kidding here. He does not work as a Terminator.

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OperaGhost21 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:34 AM

The more McG talks about this movie, the more faith I lose. It's bad enough that a great series like The Terminator has to be saddled with this no-talent hack, but to hear him ramble on about not knowing the details of project he's working on is insulting to the established fan base. Right now Bale is the only (and I mean ONLY) thing keeping me interested in this movie. But with each new tidbit of info RT releases about this film, the more and more it breaks my heart.

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ThinPhantom writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:34 AM

McG? Are you F.ucking kidding me? How did this backstreet boy get his name on the directors chair? Wanna bet on the Tomatometer? I will take 12%.

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EdwardBlake writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:37 AM

Sighs...

Christian Bale has made some crappy movies enjoyable. But I see this dude directing and all I can think of are cheesy CG effects, contrived, unrealistic action, meaningless plot twists, and failed attempts at comedy.

You'd think of how a 'post Judgment Day' Terminator movie could be an intriguing and complex allegory for the post-9/11 world and the Iraq war. Whats left of the world, America specifically, resisting an unforseen threat and years-long occupation. But some effing MTV director has to ruin it.

Well, I said similar things about Die Hard 4, and ended up being impressed with Len Wiseman's end product (third act problems aside.)

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Wallcloud writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:45 AM

From Cameron to McG... enough said. I somehow don't think I'll be as terrified as I was of T-1000.

Anyone notice how Arnie left his left arm behind in the gears in T2? I thought that would be how they could make a T3 but... oh wait T3 never happened

RIP Terminator epic 1984-1991

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kissman24 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:58 AM

I think someone like Vin Diesel would make a fine terminator. Even those who don't like him can probably agree that his acting is robotic. ;) OK, seriously though, I think we need someone who is an action guy in this film. I just have a hard time seeing Brolin being an intimidating a**-kicker. I want someone you can look at and your reaction is to pee your pants. That's what Arnold did to us in the original. I don't want another wussy terminator.

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Visions_Fugitive writes:
on Feb 07 2008 11:00 AM

In response to the the continuity between T1 and T2, my understanding is that the T-800 in T2 was sent back in time momentarily after Reese was sent. Reese could not have personally witnessed the destruction of the time machine, so he must have been reporting what future John Conner told him he would do. In that scenario, future John Conner would have destroyed the time machine after sending the T-800 back. Reese would not have been told about that T-800, since there really wouldn't have been any reason to tell him.

As far as the T-1000 being able to go through the time machine despite being metal, I think we have to accept that it can mimic living tissue enough to "fool" the machine. Or maybe Skynet gave it a coat of living tissue that it shed once it was finished traveling through time. That would explain why it appeared human upon reaching 1991 and not like a glob of liquid metal. I admit that it's not the most satisfying explanation, but it's good enough for me. I don't think the error is serious enough to say that it "throws continuity out the window."

T3, on the other hand, does through continuity out the window. I enjoy the movie, but I regard it as fan fiction more than anything.

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Dinobot77 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 11:03 AM

McG is an idiot, plain and simple. The only way a movie in the series would not be considered within the timeline is if it was a prequal. Even then, it still would technically be in the timeline. Then again, maybe I am more horrible at chronological order mapping than I am at spelling.

McG should realize that Bale is his selling point for the next three. Fans have hated the idea of making more Terminator flicks, but Bale's presence in the films gave all of us hope. To make Bale's character into a cameo role would be ridiculous. LOL, then again that is "common sense" and those are words that McG doesn't seem to have.

Don't get me wrong, I will see this movie either way, but I do not have high hopes for it. I would rather watch reruns of The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

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bigbrother writes:
on Feb 07 2008 11:51 AM

While I still have trouble respecting a man who calls himself "McG". I do love Supernatural so it's been shown to some degree with a lot of help he can make enjoyable fare. We'll see. Probably one I'll judge by the preview if I go to see it in theaters.

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crystalwhiteeyes writes:
on Feb 07 2008 12:25 PM

In reply to this comment (#1560252)
Very interesting!! Never thought of that one. But you said it best.....R.I.P. The Epic of the Terminator series! It should have ended at 2 which is the best film ever in my opinion. Christian Bale is my favorite of all-time, but sadly I don't think it will make much difference, all because of one thing.....

McG couldn't direct Bums to a Homeless Shelter! What chance does he have at directing this??

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Elixor writes:
on Feb 07 2008 12:55 PM

I've liked all three of the Terminator movies. The overall concept and story is what's interesting and over-analyzing the continuity of a time travel movie is seemingly pointless. The effects of Time Travel on the future is a paradox in itself.

You really just like one concept more than the another. None of this is reallistic or scientific. Even the TV show that everybody seems to like is contradicting the movies. Get over it.

Ever sense I first saw T1 and T2, I've wanted to see a post-appocalypse Terminator movie, so on that alone I'm looking forward to T4. Could it suck? Absolutely. I'll wait and see.

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Sirand writes:
on Feb 07 2008 12:57 PM

I'll stick with the series. Better continuation of the story...

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dystopiandweller writes:
on Feb 07 2008 12:57 PM

I have very low hopes for this movie. I gave up on the series after Cameron stopped directing it. And I'm pretty much terrified by the fact that McG is directing T4.

BUT, if you must have a terminator, please let it not be Brolin. Someone recommended Vin Diesel. Eh, not sure about that. I'll keep seeing The Pacifier in my head. I think the best idea I've read (even though I think it was meant more as a joke) is Javier Bardem. The only problem is that he already pretty much played the terminator in a 2007 movie and he'd be rehashing a performance.

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Shatter24 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 01:00 PM

I just went to look at exactly all the crap McG has made, and I've found out that he only really made three feature films. THREE FILMS. Why give him an important franchise like Terminator, when 2 out of 3 bombed critically and at the box-office (Charlie's Angels 2 and We Are Marshall) and the First Charlie's Angels was ok for an action film but overdone and certainly not deep enough to distinguish him for consideration of taking up the Terminator franchise. With all the great directors out there, why him? And this interview further proves his stupidity. He doesn't even sound like a fan or else he can't express himself well enough to get his points across. Damn you, Terminator producers for making such a mistake.

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Bane Of Anubis writes:
on Feb 07 2008 01:04 PM

In reply to this comment (#1560368)
Honestly, directing bums to a homeless shelter can be quite difficult... Drunk, incoherent, often demented...

Now, he might not be able to direct bums on the complexities of creating cardboard signs and where to find appropriate intersections to show said signs.... (Best sign I've seen: "I'm butt ugly. Anything helps. God Bless")

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BrotherGrim writes:
on Feb 07 2008 01:23 PM

James Cameron is not going to Direct it ? Garbage.

T3 cannot compare to the first 2...and neither can this director.

The franchise has already been raped by Terminator 3, which lacked the atmosphere, the emotion, the character, and the brute force of the first two.

And...No Arnie ? Yeah yeah, he IS old, but that is why we have CGI (which can patch up his wrinkles).

This will probably the final nail in the Franchise's coffin.

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BrotherGrim writes:
on Feb 07 2008 01:28 PM

wait-a-minute...

JOSH BROLIN as the Terminator ???

I like Josh Brolin's acting a lot. He did a fantastic job in NCFOM and heck, even in Planet Terror. Great Actor.

But the Terminator-role is NOT for him. Doesn't fit whatsoever.

What the heck is going on in Hollywood ?

I quote Flavor Flav when I say this:

"Waaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooooowwwwww"

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sacredchao writes:
on Feb 07 2008 01:28 PM

I hope McG is found dead of an accidental overdose before he can start this movie.

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cypress550 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 01:57 PM

besides bale being in this it just sounds like a bad idea.

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rle4lunch writes:
on Feb 07 2008 02:14 PM

McG: He keeps the hot side hot, the cool side cool, and the movies he makes are so cheap you can buy them on the dollar menu.

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jugernaut100 writes:
on Feb 07 2008 02:19 PM

yeah if Bale, and Brolin are in it, should be a good movie... there both fantastic actors and could make a crappy script look like a masterpiece

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Despot writes:
on Feb 07 2008 03:21 PM

I agree with Nathanpoitras...McG is following Cameron's footsteps is like me trying to pinch hit for Derek Jeter. Lets not forget that well, McG is a stupid name and he brought us Charlies Angels. I have no hope for the latest Terminator project.

McG you are a self involved flake with marginal talent.

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hewpot writes:
on Feb 07 2008 04:24 PM

shatter24, mcg said that this film will take place between T2 and 3, thus only 2 previous films in relation to this one, yOU IIDITOGOTO!

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BrotherGrim writes:
on Feb 07 2008 04:59 PM

"between part 2 and 3 ?"

Here is an Idea...

Why can't they Finally, and I emphasize *Finally* produce a Terminator movie about the Actual War between Man and the Machines ?!?

Like one huge 2 1/2 war epic...ala Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, etc...while focusing on several characters (not too many though), and showcasing the chaos, terror, struggle, politics, and humanity it in all.

It-is-about-time for Terminator fans to finally see the actual War between the Machines and Man, don't you all think ?

and it doesn't have to be a full-blown non-stop action movie...they can show "flashbacks" and backstories of the characters and so forth at times.

I just think it seems they keep beating around the bush all the time and not getting to the Point (in order to Milk the Franchise's Teet to a dried prune).

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arendr writes:
on Feb 07 2008 05:57 PM

sacredchao,

That's a line you shouldn't have crossed.

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sgtpeppersopus writes:
on Feb 07 2008 06:29 PM

Hey, Christian Bale, wonder why you have trouble hitting the A-list? repeat. I will stop being superheros. I will stop being superheros. Seriously, is there any way this can be good?

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Mister_Prophet writes:
on Feb 07 2008 07:02 PM

This is going to end badly.

As far as I'm concerned, the Terminator series ended with Part 2. T3 was hardly a bad movie, and it had its moments. But as a Terminator movie, it was very unnecessary. Ultimately, it didn't add anything meaninful to the series. The show on Fox...well, c'mon it's pretty terrible.

There's only one man who should be allowed to make more Terminator movies, and I assure you...he's name isn't freakin' McG.

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SKELO writes:
on Feb 07 2008 07:36 PM

i dont think this movie is even going to work without the terminator from the other movie i dont know how to spell his name

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cahbauer writes:
on Feb 07 2008 08:44 PM

I'm worried about this one. I don't trust McG at all as far as his take on the story. It was a great move on casting Bale as Connor, just as long as it does not interfere with him playing Batman in possible Batman movies after The Dark Knight. It doesn't sound like that McG has a total grasp on what the series is about. He is right, to a degree, about the whole idea that it's a cautionary tale. But in my mind the series is more about about man v. machine/creator v. created, and what humans will do to ensure their survival when their backs are against the wall. Finally, I hope what he said is true about John Connor being a "major player." Because if he is not then what was the point in placeing all that emphasis on having to risk life and limb to make sure that he was protected in the first three Terminators? It doesn't make sense to have a character to be the central figure in the first three, and possibly not in the fourth. The propose of protecting him was to ensure that he would lead the restistance in the war against the machines in the future in the first place. So, obviously that's what we need to see in Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins

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dystopiandweller writes:
on Feb 07 2008 09:04 PM

That idea is so crazy, BrotherGrim, it just might work.

I say it should be directed by Alfonso Cauron, in the style of Children Of Men. The war between Man and Machine filmed like that would be awesome. And since it's Cauron, the characters wouldn't be overrun by the action.

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surgeonviper writes:
on Feb 07 2008 09:12 PM

McG is a director with a good visual flare but lacks control of his gift. He has not accomplished enough to be an effective story teller, he is a bad choice. Too bad because "Terminator" was a great franchise, the way the story bends into a double helix connecting beginning and endings is something rather extraordinary.

This franchise unlike any other because it was designed for sequels. It almost makes you wonder if James Cameron understood his job had just started... The war had to happen, Otherwise John Connor would never have existed, (not even in the past tense).

And McG is gonna ruin it. This is when you throw up your hands and beg for mercy.

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Hereandthere writes:
on Feb 07 2008 09:44 PM

Hmm...I'm not sure about this one. T1 & T2 were excellent; T3 wasn't too bad (in my humble opinion). While I like robots vs. humans, how many more are they planning to make? Is this The Land Before Time series? But, hey, I'm sure I'll see it anyway. As long as it's better than Leprechaun in the Hood, I won't feel too cheated.

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surgeonviper writes:
on Feb 07 2008 10:10 PM

The problem with Terminator 4 is it will be about action set pieces and not developing the heroes journey. John Connor should be front and center in this picture. Connor has to grow into a Man before our eyes to complete his transformation. It can't happen off screen. This movie is as crucial as sith was to Anakin skywalker.

But McG most likely doesn't recognize the opportunity that stands before him...

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jasperoosterveld writes:
on Feb 08 2008 12:48 AM

McG is a hack and responsible for two of the worst movies ever made. I have no faith in him at all. This will destroy the whole image of T1 and T2.

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Ecs5001 writes:
on Feb 08 2008 10:29 AM

Even with the talented cast, this movie will be a fluke. McG,McG, Mcg.

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BrianInSD writes:
on Feb 08 2008 11:51 AM

The supposed continuity flaw in the time travel equipment from movie to movie is easily explained: The machines upgraded their equipment. Sure the rebels blew up their time-displacement equipment after sending Reese through but why does everyone assume that the machines only built one or that, even if they DID only build one, that they forgot how to build them and couldn't make another? They could build new, improved time-displacement equipment that doesn't have the same "living tissue" dilemma as their earlier efforts. Apparently, even in the future, software will still have to be upgraded.

My real question is: since this is going to take place in Los Angeles, 2019, can't they just call in some Blade Runners to "retire" the Terminators and then have everyone move on to the new life that awaits them in the offworld colonies?

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ronm writes:
on Feb 08 2008 12:21 PM

I like the idea of the man vs. machine war of post-T3. Actually, I'd like to see the story of how John evolves from the geeky kid to the savior of humanity. He wasn't even close to that state in T3; I think I saw it more in T2. Anyway, let it start prior to the T2 expedition's failure to save us from Skynet, say about 2028.

Connor is fighting the machines with Kate and the kids. We see there conditions, their struggle to survive, under relentless attack. Eventually, a brilliant counter attack turns things around. Their now winning! But they learn Skynet is deploying a more advanced Terminator (T-1000) to destroy 1995 John. The present John sends back the reprogrammed T-800 to save the day.

Although this delays the rise of the machines, it happens anyway and we see immediate changes to the Connors%u2019 present reality. But, to John and the misses (since they%u2019ve lived through this new timeline created by the first and second failures), so things are as they are%u2026 considerably more desperate. Now, they%u2019re loosing! They must infiltrate Skynet and use their machine to launch a third mission. John dies in on the mission, so sad. He is killed by the covertly re-re-programmed T-850 they were trying to send back. Kate must salvage the mission by re-re-reprogramming the T-850 and sending it back. Mission T3 is initiated and we%u2019re suddenly back to the moment when John dies. John%u2019s death is amazingly averted due to something John innately knew to do differently and the T3 mission is re-reinitiated.

Blinding light slowly turns into the Sun on a spring day. We see Kate, now considerably older, in a park with grandchildren playing and a futuristic cityscape in the distance. She turns to her husband and says, %u201CIsn%u2019t it a wonderful day?%u201D And it is! Her husband, Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn), turn and say, %u201CNone better!%u201D We then see who is minding the kids. The nanny is none other then the T-X: Domestic Helper Addition%u2026

Okay, I%u2019m no writer, but it%u2019s a start. Oh, and I think the Sara Connor%u2019s Chronicles ROCK!

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ronm writes:
on Feb 08 2008 12:28 PM

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WHAT'S UP WITH MY QUOTATION MARKS?

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DukeyBallswatter writes:
on Feb 08 2008 01:00 PM

this needs to not happen

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southwick writes:
on Feb 08 2008 02:13 PM

Personally I think Sarah Conner is what really tied the first two movies together. Just isn't the same without that character for me.

It would be like Aliens without Ridley, ...or terminator 3.

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surgeonviper writes:
on Feb 08 2008 09:28 PM

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Heres an idea...

scenario involving a struggle against remnants of a U.S. military that protect him but try to destroy him because he warns them of machines stalking the country side. No one has seen or heard of this. So the warning falls on deaf ears, he is not unlike chicken little... He is challenged some how, he fails along the way but gains a base within the totalitarian fortress.

A marine convoy stumbles upon an odd super complex somewhere in the southwest. And unknowingly activates a legion a Mechanical monsters (no actors,just terminators in their raw form) that will tear your arms right out of there sockets.

John makes a choice once the chest pumping Marines are torn apart. The hero emerges gunning the terminators down using a harrier and an unlimited amount of firepower to stop the onslaught and "earn" respect from the survivors. Becoming a legitimate hero before our eyes.

What do you think?

But McG wont do that...

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Xx MooSE xX writes:
on Feb 09 2008 07:36 AM

So, the new show is suprisingly good, no reason why another movie coouldnt work, and i dont think bale would attach himself to crap, i'm looking forwad to it

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Warheart1188 writes:
on Feb 09 2008 10:14 AM

McG is a terrible filmmaker. Why bother making another Terminator? T3 killed the franchise and they should've left the series after T2 but T3 had to ruin it by saying T2 didn't matter. T3 is like The Godfather 3 or Jaws 2-100. T1 and T2 were fantastic films but they should've stopped after that. T4 will further drag the franchise into hell.

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TheAnswerMVP2001 writes:
on Feb 09 2008 11:44 AM

Arnold should just do it, it's not like he's doing anything here in California anyways! Besides he's looking more and more like a machine everyday.

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Relapse writes:
on Feb 09 2008 02:37 PM

I agree that this movie does not need to happen. Though T3 wasn't the best of the series, the ending lets you see that despite their best efforts the war still happens. I like that, you really don't need to make more. I thought The Matrix was extremely good and didn't need the sequels. I don't know, maybe I'm just weird but everything just seemed already explained to me.

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stune writes:
on Feb 09 2008 05:30 PM

Christian Bale as John Connor already had me sold.

But Josh-Llewelen Moss-Brolin?!?

Consider the ticket Ordered.

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surgeonviper writes:
on Feb 09 2008 06:14 PM

Matrix manufactured a journey based on the viewers mood. Whereas John Conners journey is a very complex version of the chicken and the egg.

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TheCatsPajamas writes:
on Feb 10 2008 02:40 PM

"so it's a bit of a cautionary tale."

no sh*t mcg. thanks

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TheCatsPajamas writes:
on Feb 10 2008 02:44 PM

im still vomiting from charlies angels

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lightsocket gnome writes:
on Feb 11 2008 07:53 PM

some of you mentioned bana and bale, in my opinion i think if eric bana were to be in this new movie, he should be playing john conner, i believe his acting/leadership skills protrayed in troy speaks for itself., and bale should play the terminator, christian's a big dude folks. that and just take a good look at american psycho. he's got that cold look in is eyes down pat.

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TheCatsPajamas writes:
on Feb 11 2008 08:27 PM

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i think they're both sweet and interchangeable in those roles.doesn't sound like Bana's really on board tho.

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steeleye writes:
on Feb 12 2008 06:42 AM

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Please note the comment that thios film apparently comes between T2 and T3; therefore, "two prior films".

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Pleistarchos writes:
on Jun 16 2008 05:10 PM

Josh Brolin as the Terminator?
Even Uwe Boll thinks that is a bad idea.

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