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Will Scarecrow Return to Haunt "The Dark Knight"?
by Scott Weinberg | May 15, 2007
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Hey "Batman" fans? Were you hoping to see more of Cillian Murphy in the "Batman Begins" sequel? Then here's something you might want to read...

According to a pair of sources, it looks like Mr. Murphy will indeed be reprising his villainous role in "The Dark Knight." Obviously we don't know how big a part this character will play in Part 2, but he was pretty damn creepy in the first flick, so I call this good news indeed ... if it's true.



Further scuttlebutt indicates that Maggie Gyllenhaal will have more to do in "The Dark Knight" than Katie Holmes did in "Begins." Again, fine with me.

Source: JoBlo, Batman on Film

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J3vr0N
J3vr0N writes:
on May 15 2007 02:15 AM

Good, I love me some Cillian Murphy.

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zooman
zooman writes:
on May 15 2007 02:43 AM

"he is creepy in the first film" ??? the scarecrow is creepy in the animated series, very creepy, but hes not a fifht as creepy in the film, a total waste of the character. But cyllian is good, I hope they make him creepier this time. I guess they are too afraid of making it too dark, but i do hope that even if he does not play a big part, that they make those scarecrow parts actually scary...

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Mr. Kong
Mr. Kong writes:
on May 15 2007 04:10 AM

His last scene in Batman Begins..... they'd better bring him back.

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Matanuki
Matanuki writes:
on May 15 2007 04:12 AM

I don't think 'fear of making it too dark' is an assessment that can be assigned to this new franchise, zooman. And I disagree that Scarecrow was a waste. He fit right in, and isn't necessarily a flagship villain anyway. You're right though, Murphy's awesome in the role. But if he's gonna be in this one it'll be an even better fit for this sequel to have him show up for an even creepier turn.

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Matanuki
Matanuki writes:
on May 15 2007 04:14 AM

Who's gonna be the first on this forum to express skepticism over there being too many villains in this sequel?...

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Mr. Kong
Mr. Kong writes:
on May 15 2007 04:58 AM

In reply to this comment (#865311)
Scarecrow makes two. Harvey Dent, if he's in the movie, isn't gonna be a villan until the third one, by the time the planet will be renamed "Gotham City".

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Azlam Orlandu
Azlam Orlandu writes:
on May 15 2007 05:07 AM

I'll be glad to see him back. Murphy did a fine job in Begins and I'd like to see him in Knight even in a small capacity for the sake of continuity.

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Gimy
Gimy writes:
on May 15 2007 05:29 AM

actually, its 3. joker, scarecrow...and eric roberts' character. other than losing Holmes(thanks Tom...greedy b3stard) this series really can't do any wrong with Bale at the helm. i thought murphy was better than any of the bad guys in the first film so if he is coming back, thats good news. i wouldn't hold your breath for him to last that long though, he's probably just in there to keep things flowing from film to film.

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jeremyd4
jeremyd4 writes:
on May 15 2007 05:30 AM

[b]have some of you forgotten the end of Batman Begin[/b]
Most of the supervillians that will now plague Gotham city are a result of the insane asylum patients being permannently messed up because of the toxic stuff released there. The scarecrow was technically not in the first film until the very end when he appeared on horseback. The scary bag mask will probably be fused to his face permannently too, after Katie's character burnt him.


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Mr. Kong
Mr. Kong writes:
on May 15 2007 05:35 AM

In reply to this comment (#865315)
That's.... that's a freakin' AWESOME IDEA!

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jeremyf1977
jeremyf1977 writes:
on May 15 2007 06:07 AM

He didn't get killed in the First so it makes sense

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jeremyd4
jeremyd4 writes:
on May 15 2007 06:29 AM

In reply to this comment (#865316)
It is? I said all that mainly because of the guy who said Scarecrow wasn't as scary as he could be - we have yet to see the full-fleged Scarecrow IMO. I thought it was all pretty obvious from the first movie?? It's why I have so much admiration for the thought C. Nolan puts in his films - there are so many tiny little details you pass over on a first viewing only to notice later. Just look at his film catalogue so far: The Prestige, Memento and Batman Begins... they're all like complicated puzzles, and I personally think Mr Nolan's head must be about to explode.

In terms of Batman, because it's a series and not a one off film like the others, you can already see him planting the seeds for things that may (or may not) happen in the future - such as the kid that'll almost certainly turn out to be Robin should they ever decide to include him in the series. It just all ties together so perfectly. It also leaves the door open should the movie's creators wish to wait and see how fans react or what they sense people will want included later on.

It feels forced when a character you've never heard of or witnessed before simply appears in a sequel for the sake of a new story. With 'Batman Begins' and probably 'The Dark Night' it seems they're introducing as many of the characters as possible early on (even in the shortest of scenes). Everything seems like it'll be connected well enough so that it all feels more like a saga (of Star Wars proportions perhaps?) rather than a bunch of stand alone films with interesting stories. Hopefully, when C. Nolan has finished with his Batman movies, they'll have this really "organic" feel and going back to watch the first in the series will be fun since characters in later entries now mean far more to you. The Spiderman series has been doing it with the Lizard, but I think Batman is doing it far better.


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Mr. Kong
Mr. Kong writes:
on May 15 2007 06:37 AM

In reply to this comment (#865318)
I thought it was a good idea because I've been thinking for a while about Scarecrow returning and never really thought of that.

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arendr
arendr writes:
on May 15 2007 07:32 AM

FYI, the guy who is currently Jeopardy champion looks exactly like Cillian Murphy. Watch tonight, you'll see.

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blank blank
blank blank writes:
on May 15 2007 07:53 AM

i dont know about nolan, but bale has definately stated that he wants no part of a batman movie that includes robin. i remember him saying something like "hopefully my time is over before they decide to introduce robin". and he's right, the movies are about batman, but i think nolan could definately make an interesting story regarding robin and how he mirrors batman in some respects.

as for too many villains... seeing as we dont even know if scarecrow is in the movie, and we dont know what role eric roberts is playing, im fine with it. plus, we already know scarecrow so it doesnt take any screen time to introduce him, and we're free to focus on the joker. besides i dont really count roberts as a villain. if anything, they will just use him to show how gotham crime is moving away from gangsters and more to the "freaks"


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Mr. Kong
Mr. Kong writes:
on May 15 2007 09:28 AM

In reply to this comment (#865321)
Agreed; Robin there were many things that ruined B&R and BF, but not even plastic molded nipples can compare to Chris O'donnell as Robin. He should have no part in the Begins series.

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arendr
arendr writes:
on May 15 2007 09:32 AM

There were 3 villains in Begins if you include Falcone, just as some of you are including Roberts' character in this one.

Not to mention that I think Nolan understands that these movies should be about Batman wrestling with his personal demons and that the villains are merely a way of expressing that.


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unbreakable_samurai
unbreakable_samurai writes:
on May 15 2007 09:40 AM

Sounds good to me, Murphy's a great Scarecrow and Gyllenhaal is a talented actress whom I'm sure will be good in this.

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Ultimale069
Ultimale069 writes:
on May 15 2007 10:04 AM

They should take a page out of the comics and have scarecrow and joker team up , and then have scarecrow turn on the joker and spray with fear toxin, only to discover it has not effect on the Joker. Then Joker can do what he did in the comics and beat scarecrow nearly to death with a chair, or other funny prop.

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BReeG
BReeG writes:
on May 15 2007 11:15 AM

Sounds like Nolan isn't taking the "Introduce a villain, kill them off. Next film: introduce a villain, kill them off. Repeat ad nauseum." approach. Thank god, there's so much potential for building drama and a hero/nemesis relationship over the course of several films that a lot of superhero movies don't take advantage of because they follow that pattern.

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